ensemble bible study club

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☆ members ☆
leo tsukinaga
tsukasa suzakura
nazuna nito
kuro kiryuu
makoto yuuki
ritsu sakuma
mizuki sena
miai garyuu
kazuki oogami

this is for like, everything else, memory stuff generally goes here

Comments

[idolworship]

( no no it's better than the other kind of kin,

in any case, when leo puts it like that................... hm. he'd never thought of it like that before, but. it's not that it doesn't strike a chord (it, unfortunately, very much does), but he can only directly condemn ... the sort of faith he's in so much before it becomes stressful. he knows he promised leo to free himself a little but... it's not something so easy )

well
i suppose it might be human nature
we are sheep and we hope to be shepherded
there is value in freedom but often
i suppose we end up back on the path
how silly
but, as with all forms of bondage
emotional, obligatory, familial, et cetra
it's not so easy to break free of
i suppose "true" freedom is easier to speak of than
it is to obtain

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yeah
even i've got things i'm bound by, so it's not like i've experienced "true" freedom myself...
but i think there's a difference in kinds of returns, if that makes sense?
like
there's a difference in coming back to what you know because you like it and coming back because you feel there's nothing else for you but that
you know?
one isn't bondage you should break from, but the other you'd be better without
idk
it's hard to put into words
i'll think about it and get back to you properly at some point

[idolworship]

( hhhhhh,t,nj )

you don't need to push yourself
it's a sensitive topic
and probably not particularly fun to speak of

( for leo, and ... him too, he's suddenly finding. this is a type of callout he wasn't expecting today,

a pause, then adds: )

i don't disagree though
i think if anyything
one of the highest pursuits in life should remain
your own happiness

( ... even though some find their happiness in bondage )

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[he's here to seduce you and call you out, i guess.

it isn't a fun topic though. for him, or... for miai, either, knowing the following as he does.]

mm, yeah
it definitely should be
but i still don't think other people should be in control of when you get that happiness
or when you deserve to pursue it
it never settled well with me

[at home, in the sect.]

[idolworship]

( see he'd be fine with this honestly if it hadn't come up in the context of religion and rosetis were not something they'd talked about recently, but anyway )

well
you won't find me disagreeing
but i suppose there is a difference between
that and
guidance?
if you do have the choice to walk away,
for instance
but you choose not to
i think that defines a line between
what control and
advice from a friend, for example

( r... rosetis is a little bit valid...,,,

he would have had a better defense on hand maybe a year ago, when he'd just arrived, but given he's been avoiding rosetis for the past half year or so, his rhetoric is weak even if its hold is there )

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[mmmmmmmmmmmmm. mm. touchy tiptoes here. he doesn't want to get Too into this, both for personal reasons and. miai reasons. mmmm.]

point
i can't really argue against that
just
make sure the advice your friend gives you is for the good of your wellbeing
and not solely for themselves, their peace of mind, whatever

[... a little personal, mmmmmmm--]

i think that's a pretty good thing to keep in mind when thinking about stuff like this

[idolworship]

well
that's true
i suppose it depends on how well you know them

... it's true
sometimes there are those
who seek to control for their own benefit
because it makes them seem safe and secure
and that's a complex that they can only work through themselves
and sometimes
their harm is well-intentioned
that they only meant to help you
but inadvertently ended up
placating their own anxieties instead
in which case, i'd like to think
it may be possible to talk things through
with time
it's not always possible but
i suppose it is a little idealistic of me
to hope for a pleasant resolution to all things

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i think it's nice
to hope for that sort of thing, i mean
people who are nothing but down or cynical are hard to be around, you know?
so those that're idealistic, who'd like things to end nicely, i can't hate that
time does help with most things
as does distance and stuff

[...]

so i think if those people can talk things out
and come to some solution that brings happiness to both parties
then that'd be nice
both, though. compromise only works if there isn't one side taking more than the other

[idolworship]

i'm glad you feel that way
i'm almost entirely idealism, myself

( all idealism little action, which ... he wants to change )

but i agree
a compromise isn't a compromise if only one party is taking
that much is called bullying
regardless, i think
if compromise doesn't work once
there may sometimes be a chance to talk again
in the future
but ... that may depend
on each unique situation
i guess i wouldn't be naive enough to say
every situation can be solved by talking but
if you keep an open mind
with that as your end goal
i like to think that may make things
gradually
a little bit more possible